Catching up

By: Chris | July 29th, 2008

Lots of going on to report on, especially since I have written in a couple of weeks.

 

•The Rafael van Der Vaart transfer saga may be concluding with a whimper, rather than a bang. The latest twist had Real put a paltry offer of €6M for VDV last week. I say paltry because VDV’s transfer fee was reported to be in the neighborhood of €20M during the last 12 months. Realistically, HSV should be able to bank on €10-15m for him. Here’s my take that I posted on the Real Madrid Offside  late last week:

I am hoping that nothing happens, because the longer this drags out, the less our chance of replacing him before January with a quality player. I feel that HSV are willing to go into the season with VDV and grab one of the CL spots in the Bundesliga and then let him walk, hoping that they make more from qualifying for the CL than they would with VDV’s transfer. A big gamble, to be sure, but in that case everybody wins–VDV gets a fat payday because he carried a side like HSV to the CL on his back, and HSV gets the CL money. And if they don’t make it, he will likely be viewed as having failed to carry them to the CL and his value on the market will be zip anyway, so the club doesn’t lose a lot of money in that case.

 

According to the HSV web site, “The Madrid club told HSV per fax that their interest in van der Vaart is now ended.” New reports have Real upping the offer to €13M; conflicting reports then say that Real have not made a new offer.  The final chapter in this story may come this weekend, as Hamburg, Real, Arsenal, and Juve(I *love* writing that name; in America “Juve” is slang for Juvenile Hall, which is the part of our justice system set up for youth offenders) meet in the Emirates Cup in London. Ironically, HSV play Real in the first match of the tourney on Saturday 2 August at–you guessed it–Emirates Stadium in North London. Their second match is against Juventus on Sunday 3 August. All games of the Emirates Cup will be broadcast live in the US on GolTV (WOOHOO!). The HSV games are both at 9AM EDT in the US.

•Another rumor we missed on was the transfer of midfielder Nigel de Jong, he also (besides VDV) of superb play for Holland in the Euro. Lots of gossip about him going to the EPL. A report in The Sunhad our lad Nigel on his way to Newcastle to play for former HSV star Kevin Keegan. De Jong quickly dispelled the rumor and swore his allegiance to HSV.

•Paolo Guerrero suffered an contusion on his tibia (that was originally feared to be a fracture) during the friendly with Czech side Liberec (HSV lost 1:2). Fortunately, his recovery has been swift and he is back training with the squad.

•Vincent Kompany was finally released to play for Belgium in the Olympics. He will play the 2 games in London this weekend then fly to China for the Olympic tournament. Belgium are in a group with Brazil, China, and New Zealand, and the top 2 teams from each group advance. Ol’ Vince may be gone longer than expected. . .

There’s a whole lot more to cover but that’s all the time I have for now. I will crank out another post and cover some of the training camp battles, the friendly versus Manchester City from Saturday past, and another new kit (which is awful). 

 






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  • Jan |  July 29th, 2008 at 3:57 pm

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    “Juve (I *love* writing that name; in America “Juve” is slang for Juvenile Hall, which is the part of our justice system set up for youth offenders)”

    And Real is a supermarket chain in Germany, which has inspired someone to create his version of the vdV to Real story:
    http://www.fanartisch.de/news/rafael-van-der-vaart-real-madrid-wechsel-witze-und-dementis-beim-hsv/

    It seems that Real Madrid are the only big club, who have an interest in vdV at the moment. And it’s probably vdV’s preferred destination anyway, so Real really are in a good position to keep the price down. I somehow don’t buy into their statements, that they have no interest in vdV any longer. Especially because I don’t believe that they can really get their hands on Ronaldo.

    I personally hope that Real don’t make that €13-15m offer. I’d rather see Hamburg keeping vdV for another year. Another season with vdV equals:
    - as you pointed out, the chance to qualify for the CL and earn the money for a replacement.
    - one more season for Trochowski to finally realize his full potential. Or not.
    - one more season for Zidane to come good. Or not. Although if they can loan him out or even sell him, it might be the best for everyone involved.
    - one more season for the young talents to develop and take the next step. (Choupo-Moting, Chrisantus or the pre-season surprise package Pitroipa…)
    - one more season of vdV shirt sales.
    - one more season to develop a better international reputation, which would help signing a replacement.

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  • Chris |  July 29th, 2008 at 5:44 pm

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    Jan, you’re stealing my thunder on Pitroipa. ;( JK

    I finally saw an online broadcast (is that a contradiction of terms? And it was in Chinese. . .but I digress) of the match and was going to report on it shortly. Pitroipa really looked like a great offseason pickup with his goal but the heat really took a LOT out of the match particularly in the 2nd half, making it really hard to effectively judge the performance. City looked tired, and understandably so considering how far they had to travel for their Intertoto match in the Faroe Islands.

    I was hoping that we would get a longer look at Zidan than we did. He’s one of the guys who have reportedly have a new lease on life under BMJ (that’d be Big Martin Jol), along with *GASP* a surprisingly effective Thimothee Atouba at left back against City.

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  • don |  July 29th, 2008 at 7:35 pm

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    my thoughts on the whole van der vaart saga differ a bit from your guys’s. i actually have this secret hope that he’ll get sold this summer (for a ton of money, of course). i realize that’s a bit heretical to say, but hear me out: the way i see it, it all centers around trochowski. he’s a native son (lived in hamburg since he was five), he’s a creative attacking midfielder, he has sick ball control skills, and of course there’s his hammer of a shot. i think he’s our next best hope for a real franchise player. (in my dream scenario, ballack retires from the national team and trochowski takes his place in the attacking midfield and gains thousands of swooning fans when germany wins in 2010.) now the reason i think it would help for vdv to go is because it would allow trochowski to take his place as the number 10, and that’s what he really is. he’s been on the wing forever now, and he’s alright there, but not as good as he can be. i think if vdv goes, trochowski finally has room to come into his own, and this jol guy seems like he might be the kind of guiding influence to really allow him to flourish.

    anyway, that’s my two cents. i agree with your guys’s excitement about pitroipa, though — he could be really fun to watch, and i’m looking forward to this season.

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  • Jan |  July 29th, 2008 at 8:34 pm

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    I’m just a bit more cautious about Trochowski. As you said, he has the technical skills and a powerful shot, but should vdV stay another year, you could see if Jol is able to build upon those qualities and take Trochowski to the next level (Nike style). I think you wouldn’t need to play him in vdV’s position to see whether his game plateaued or whether he improved. Then it would be much less of a risk to let him replace vdV.

    Van der Vaart scored 12 goals and provided 10 assists (+ numerous pre-assists for sure) last season. That’s some big boots to fill.

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  • diana |  July 30th, 2008 at 1:40 am

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    ‘And Real is a supermarket chain in Germany, which has inspired someone to create his version of the vdV to Real story’
    Whatever they say about learning something new each day. I cannot stop laughing at the link you posted, Jan.

    ‘The Rafael van Der Vaart transfer saga may be concluding with a whimper, rather than a bang.’
    Chris, got a piece news to report. And given the link I read gets its source from Marca, up to you to interpret the whole thing. Apparently according to Marca, Real Madrid reported to have lodged a new bid of €10million.

    This is the one I am talking about – http://www.sportinglife.com/football/overseas/germany/news/story_get.dor?STORY_NAME=soccer/08/07/30/manual_095902.html&TEAMHD=germany

    Off-topic a bit…I do know Chinese, Chris. :P After English, it’s my second language. Officially, English is my first language while Chinese is the second language. Or we always call it ‘mother tongue’ here (so in my case, you get the idea what is my mother tongue). I have to study that back in school given of my ancestry (and it’s an examinable subject as well). I am the second generation in my family to be born and bred in Singapore after my parents (given their own parents were originally from China).

    But given now my Chinese is limited to speaking in daily life (and I actually speak more Chinese than English :P ), it has sort of gone a little rusty over time. It has been reduced to the most basic aspects of the language. Embarrassing…given back in school I was always among the highest in class for Chinese. Since kindergarten!

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  • Chris |  July 30th, 2008 at 8:11 am

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    Diana, I’m not buying anything written by a Spanish sports newspaper. Those guys make Bild look like the New York Times when it comes to reporting facts.

    I will get a post out today with updates.

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  • diana |  July 30th, 2008 at 8:36 am

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    ‘Those guys make Bild look like the New York Times when it comes to reporting facts.’
    LOL! I like that! :P Gee, I was actually laughing out loud when I read that part.

    Frankly, whatever Marca reported…I don’t take it seriously too. Just that when I first saw that report, I was like ‘Not again!’. You never know what Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon is going to say. Already even as a ManU supporter myself, the Cristiano Ronaldo issue…I am not bothered with it – anymore.

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