Step 3 Successful! 4-0 Derby win over Bremen!

By: Mark | February 22nd, 2011
   
The new (old) strike partnership

The new (old) strike partnership

(The Man)den Petric
Nice to see the boys bounce back in a big way after the midweek loss to hometown rivals St. Pauli. Although the Werder Bremen match started slowly, Hamburg eventually got on the scoreboard, and the floodgates opened. I have to say that Mladen Petric was really the difference in this one. His goal to open the scoring happened as he was falling down – most of the other Hamburg strikers would usually fire the shot wide or over the net, but Petric has Robin Hood accuracy, which he likes to show off with his bow and arrow celebrations. Then in the second half his hard work was rewarded again as he stole the ball off of Per Mertesacker who couldn’t clear the ball, which left Petric an easy pass to get Paolo Guerrero on the score sheet. This was the real turning point, as it spurred the team on to score two more goals with style. Guerrero got a brace (great to see that!), and finally Anis Ben-Hatira scored a goal after coming on as a sub.

Armin Veh rings the changes
For the most part it looked like the changes in the lineup worked out well for Armin Veh, and this may have saved his bacon for a few more weeks. At this point I doubt he will get fired, but it will take more good performances and qualification for European competition for him to earn a contract extension for next year. To be honest, the thought of yet another coaching change makes me feel ill, but such is the way of HSV!

I liked the play of Heung Min Son this week. He was lively and not content to stay on the wing. He cut in several times and tried to create chances – something the team was sorely lacking. Also, the gamble of putting Kacar in defense with Westermann in midfield paid off, but I don’t think that would be my preferred lineup every week. If the team can attack as well as they did against Bremen, I don’t see the need of weakening the back four every week. Kacar could certainly fill in for Jarolim in midfield though – a position he may ultimately claim for himself. It also looks like Guerrero has made a claim for a starting berth at striker – ahead of Van the Man. Petric is in great form and should start every match, and then Guerrero and Ruud can alternate or sub in for each other. I would be ok with that.

The tricky thing now is how to handle the wing players – Elia, Jansen, Pitroipa and Son. We know each of them can inject a lot of quality in the squad, but none of them has a good game every week. I’d say that Son should get the next start, and maybe Elia – but just to shut him up. I’m pretty sick of all his whining, and at this point I hope Hamburg sell him for big money in the summer. If he was in such good form as he says he is, then Veh would have him in the lineup. But he’s not, so Veh has used the other 3 guys to better effect. For now I’ll side with the coach.

If 6 Was 9
Now for the depressing part – as happy as we can be that the team bounced back to beat Bremen and claim 6 of the 9 points available in the northern derby week, take a quick look at the Bundesliga standings. If Hamburg had beat St. Pauli and got 3 more points, they would be in 5th place right now, ahead of Mainz, and only 2 points out of Champions League qualification! Instead, we are in 7th, 1 point out of the Europa League. I guess we can play “what if?” games every week, but it sure does hurt to see the difference a single 1-0 loss can make. Here’s a nice write-up about the ups and downs of HSV this season: http://www.goal.com/en/news/15/germany/2011/02/22/2362916/teutonic-tuesday-jekyll-and-hyde-hamburg-stumble-towards

New Sporting Director
Frank ArnesenFinally the saga is over. We now have the Biersdorfer replacement the club has been after for 2 years. Frank Arnesen, currently of Chelsea (!) will be taking over this summer after his current contract expires. To be honest, I don’t know much about him other than what I’ve read in the last couple of days, but clearly his pedigree is great. Click on his picture for the Bundesliga.de write-up about him. This has to be a move in the right direction, and in a nice touch the HSV board are keeping Bastian Reinhardt to work alongside Arnesen.

So, all positive news at the moment, and I hope this carries into next week. Next up the team travel to play FC Kaiserslautern on Saturday for the return fixture of the match that I got to see live in October. Hamburg won that game 2-1, but it was very tightly contested. Looking forward to a better turnout this time for Hamburg!


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  • Ryan |  February 22nd, 2011 at 1:55 pm

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    Great write up! I really like the Arnesen signing, it’ll be great to have someone who worked with a giant premier league club like Chelsea, as he will certainly not be accepting the ’stepping stone’ club mentality. In his interview he talked about the great potential a club with a big fan base and great facilities has, so it seems like he has an idea of what he wants to do with HSV.
    I read today on the oh so reliable goal.com about Elia and Veh most likely going out this summer… wonder if that is Arnesen related?

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  • Mark |  February 23rd, 2011 at 2:10 pm

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    Here’s a good article from Sports Illustrated talking about Frank Arnesen and what the club hopes they can achieve under his guidance: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/raphael_honigstein/02/23/hamburg/index.html

    Definitely worth a read, and hopefully will instill some hope for where the club is headed!

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  • Chris |  February 23rd, 2011 at 7:39 pm

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    RH’s article points out something that I have never quite been able to put my finger on–that the direction of the club left with Didi Beiersdorfer.

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  • Mark |  February 23rd, 2011 at 8:51 pm

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    I think you’re right Chris, but I’d also like to add Martin Jol to that. His tenure as coach of HSV was short but exciting, and I realty felt that he could lead the team to bigger things. I hope that Arnesen will turn things around and finally give the Hamburg fans some trophies!

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  • Mark |  February 25th, 2011 at 5:25 am

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    A couple of interesting lineup changes for the away match in Kaiserslautern: Rost – Demel, Kacar, Mathijsen, Aogo – Westermann, Zé Roberto – Jansen, Trochowski – Guerrero, Petric

    And on the bench: Drobny, Jarolim, Tesche, Pitroipa, Ben-Hatira, Son, van Nistelrooy

    Armin Veh is giving Jansen and Trochowski a shot on the wings tomorrow. I read something about Troche always working hard in training and always being ready to go when called upon. So he is getting the start this week. I have a feeling this is a shot against Elia, who is not making the trip (benched 2 games in a row!).

    Otherwise the lineup is the same as the Bremen match, including Kacar at CB and Westermann at CDM. We have lots of good subs available if needed (with one glaring exception in the name of Tesche). I mean, Elia, Rincon, Benjamin are all staying in Hamburg instead. What is Veh thinking???

    Anyway, overall I like the lineup and I hope they come out flying. Let’s see an early goal by Guerrero!

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  • Mark |  February 26th, 2011 at 10:43 am

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    1-1 result against ‘Lautern. Not the best game, but at least they showed some heart to come from behind. HSV are now in 6th place, which should be a Europa League place now that Germany have officially passed Italy in the UEFA standings. Some tough games coming up though!

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  • Ryan |  February 26th, 2011 at 11:45 am

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    Hey Mark – unfortunately the UEFA coefficient ranking only goes into effect for next season, so we’re still fighting for 5th in this one. I didn’t get to see the game, but how was Trochi as a winger? That didn’t really make sense to me, but maybe it worked out. Veh… recessing Elia because he can’t figure out how to work with him?

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  • Mark |  February 26th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

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    Hi Ryan, I wasn’t aware of that. That’s kind of a stupid rule by UEFA, but I guess a lot of their rules don’t make sense. Well, 5th place still seems a long way off then.

    Troche did alright on the wing, but he was subbed off at halftime for Ben-Hatira. He has played on the wing a lot before this season and for Germany, but I think he prefers the centre. I don’t think he got much of a chance today, but they were losing at the half, so Veh needed to do something to change it up. Jansen had a good game today though! That won’t help Elia’s cause…

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  • Ryan |  February 26th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

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    Yes biiiiig game next weekend, home against 5th place Mainz!

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  • Eric |  February 28th, 2011 at 7:37 am

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    Regarding the standings, if FC Bayern wins the Pokal, sixth will be good enough for a Europa League spot if FC Bayern finishes in the top five. The Pokal winner is an automatic qualifier for Europa League, but if the winner already qualified for CL or EL, then another spot opens up in the standings.

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  • Ryan |  February 28th, 2011 at 9:12 am

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    Hey Eric, I think the Europa League spot goes from DFB winner to DFB runner up, but seeing as that would be a second Bundesliga team in this situation, maybe they just don’t let them play in Europe? Though that would ruin some of the point of them playing in the cup…

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  • Mark |  February 28th, 2011 at 9:54 am

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    Hi guys,

    This situation happened last year. I believe this is how it works:

    If the DFB Cup winner would qualify for Europe based on the league standings, then the DFB Cup runner-up gets the Europa League spot. If the DFB Cup runner-up ALSO would qualify for Europe based on league standings, then the Europa League spot goes to the 6th place team in the league.

    Last year, the DFB final was Bayern vs. Bremen, and both teams were in the top 5 in the league standings. That’s why Stuttgart, who finished 6th last year, got to play in the Europa League this year.

    So, based on the remaining teams in the DFB Cup this year, we will have a final with either Bayern or Schalke against Duisburg or Energie Cottbus, neither of which is in the top flight. So no matter what happens, the runner-cup of the DFB cup will not be in the top 5 of the league, so the Europa League spot will go to them or the cup winner (if it isn’t Bayern) and not the 6th place team in the League.

    Hope that makes sense. The long and short of it is that Hamburg cannot get the spot if they finish 6th, and it’s quite possible that a 2. Bundesliga team will play in the Europa League next season!

    Hamburg will have to qualify for Europe based on their own merits I guess. Although they did go a long way to increasing Germany’s UEFA coefficient from their good Europa League runs 2 years in a row before this season. That has to count for something!

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